They are not seeing us now right? Just the opening screen? Thy only see us when we speak?
I hope we have clergy with us today.
GNTV David Wood
You are correct, they only see the opening screen. If you speak they hear you.
Beth I think this question might be for you
Never mind Beth, GNTV handled it!
Greeting Ginny and all of you! Great to be with all of you in this way!
It seems I might be having some bandwidth issues I’m working to resolve thos.
For those of you just joining us, welcome! We are hearing a conversation between Laurie our Lay Leader and Bishop Bob
Hello friends, for those of you raising your hands, if you have a question, take a moment to enter it into the QandA box so we can address it.
Hello! For those of you just joining us we are listening to an interview between conference Lay Leader Laurie Lineberry and Bishop Bob.
I know i did…like a pavlov response
Can’t help yourself but say it.
Thank you for this, Bishop.
One thing we don’t have that was mentioned - the translation device, we did not have anyone request translation for laity session. Thank you all!
You got it Myrna!
I’ve started adding comments and questions as they come in to the google dox.
I want to see more millennials in our church and I'm starting to realize it's less of a want and more of a calling. I've put together a book list to start a small group in the fall :)
I would like to see more of our laity as involved and engaged at church as they are with their clubs, their job, etc.
I'm not seeing many chats, please choose the drop down of all panelists AND attendees. Thanks!
Resending it include all: I would like to know how to take action on issues of importance to me -- beyond just saying "We/the UMC ought to . . . "
As laity, I want to be a catalyst for change in this ever changing/changing society. Our church has a new Pastor starting in July, during these times, I want to be able to support, and help the congregation understand/make the changes needed to be a growing church.
I’m heading to college in the fall, and I want to plug into a new “temporary” church home and find a way to work for social justice.
I am hoping to get more ideas about how to be the church in pandemic times.
resending to all panelists and attendees: I, as a youth, would like to learn how I can get more youth from my church in leadership roles in and around my church.
We have some great small group studies and discussions, but it seems like it's always the same group of people...
As a lay person I would like to learn how to think more outside the box -- especially ways to take our church "out of the building" to our surrounding community.
I would like to see more active small groups in our church built around the interests of members. Like hiking, attending concerts etc..
hoping to hear about creative ideas and opportunities for distance fellowship. We are doing many of the tradional things but as we continue to move forward we want to get invo
I would like to see more engagement in the community around our churches, having meetings at local eatery, when it is safe. Have them see us out instead of in our building.
@Beth Re: Millennials-- Can I send you my book list for our "millennial" study?
Of course, It'll be open to millennials at heart too
God doesn't call those that are equipped. He equips those that are called.
Here’s a next step to explore your calling: https://dscumc.org/board-of-ordained-ministry/
@Danika: Yes Please!
It seems that we will have to be very deliberate about reconnecting once we can get together as the greater community may well see us as withdrawn and closed during this time.
I would like more accommodations so that members who have disabilities can participate - such as on demand captioning, sign language, and more space around tables when we are in person.
Right now, I focus more on giving sermon related to what is going in our lives. Perhaps get everyone's reflection about the pandemic.
Keeping worship online for our members who cannot attend because of illness, disability or inability to travel - don't shut them out once we have opened the door.
Gwen, that is very true, step up and be willing to do it. And ask for a mentor to help you know the ropes and where the stepping stones are.
Yes Laura Land
Quick follow-up to called to ordination talk… There’s an event by the Conference Board of Ordained Ministry that is accepting registrations until June 14: https://dscumc.org/2020-orientation-ministry/
If you are youth looking to be in leadership - have a conversation with your senior pastor/pastor and lay leader and ask to be plugged in.
I am going to clear the Google doc..is that okay?
Will we have access to this chat post meeting?
Sure. Do we have a place where all these comments can be read later?
Can we just make a mark and move down so we have the history?
I think the pandemic has given us some opportunities to finally do things differently. Many of us have been keeping contact with many others in our churches. Of course I miss our actual church services, but having services on-line and keeping in contact with people. I thing this will help us with ministering to shut ins.
GNTV can we save this chat?
Will do Gwen!
GNTV David Wood
GNTV can save the chat and so can you. As a panelist click those three dots in the area where you enter these messages and you can download directly.
There is a save chat at the 3-dot menu which would save it to our local computers.
Since being a member of the Methodist church, I served as a youth member of the admin board, which I, now as an adult, don’t see anymore. As part of my Mutual Ministry Team for the CLM, I have a youth as part of my team. I want to see what they need and want to see.
It seems a lot of the time when you are asked to do something it turns out to be a "life-sentence" - my suggestions would be to ask people to start out helping with a one-time event that has an ending - More likely to get a "yes, I can help" response..
Yes! We are trying that...we call them "Hot Teams"! It seems to create more energy and excitement!
Agreed. When I was coordinating neighborhood watch groups in my community, I only asked people to do one small task and many would say “Yes”
I totally agree Sally. No one wants a life sentence because they said yes once.
I will be addressing the life-sentence issue a bit later!!
Perhaps if we encourage everyone to participate regardless how little they can do is very important. What is important, they can share.
If you would like to become involved in conference leadership here are just some of the opportunities available to you: https://dscumc.org/justice-outreach/
Thanks Billie Ill check that out
Angel really great point…and I know Gwen will tackle that too!
This is sparking an amazing number of comments…awesome job, Gwen!
I will take the win!!! This is what I hoped for!
I like to see what people are excited passionate about and then look for a place they can use that in our church
Regarding “life sentence” there are many churches around the nation that follow Jessica Moffit’s model of retiring every ministry at the end of the year. So leadership retires as well. Then there’s a weekend process to birth new ministries or rebirth one’s that you love!
Thank you Billie.
Encourage people to be aware of the Holy Spirit within themselves and become excited and encouraged to share that excitement.
Beth, thanks for staying on top of the questions. I won’t ask you to step in…and will wait for the moderator (Gwen) to know when to ask you.
No worries :-)
I just saw you nodding and was curious. I will restrain myself…promise!
Thank you for the history and information. I find many members of our church have no idea why things got to where they are. Or what Methodism means.
It is so important to understand the interests and gifts of your members and draw them in to those arenas make certain that you truly involve them so that they see the value of their participation
Our work as Laity is never done.
When you work to identify spiritual gifts in all members, everyone will do the work God intended. Burnout is less likely. Ministries are more successful.
If your heart is in it, it isn’t a burden…and you are more likely to keep doing the work, regardless of age.
That is so true Kathy.
I agree Laurie.
Judith - you are so right!
A lot of people are actually looking for a chance to get involved in something thats important to them. As the church we can provide opportunities for people to make a difference in their communities
I don't believe that we all have to agree on our theological ideas to be in meaningful community with one another. Diversity of thought makes us stronger, not weaker.
Absolutely, Brian Bourgon
Brian, I am of that some thought. We cannot build a church, a community etc with the same ideas and thoughts. Compromise.
I believe that the first part of our faith is to try and be like Jesus was. To look for relationships with others and treat others as he did. He had a wide variety of friends.
Respect to all thoughts.
I participate for two reasons: it is hard to have a strong faith and SIT on the sidelines and there are some things I feel passionate about like educating Christians and assuring ALL are treated equally. others would have different areas of passionate belief.
I strongly lean into the twin commandments and feel they are imperative to living the lives we're called to lead. If we love God and love our neighbors, many of the other details get "simpler" And, I love that we can live this way--not as cookie cutters but with integrity and heart and allow others to live into that love in the ways they are called to
The ability to compromise is very important. You can't grow without the ability to change.
I identify with Creator God and table flipping Jesus-- Social justice and climate change and how our churches react to them are important to me
Jesus recognized that we aren’t perfect but he accepted us anyway. We need to extend grace to people we disagree with and try to engage in honest discussin
Fred, I agree with you about gifts. There are also other gifts which I believed spiritual gifts which we can find by discerning and most definitely we can find them. I myself no nothing about preaching and leading Bible study. I spent 23 years in the military, so when I joined the ministry I absolutely no experience or qualification to become lay leader. I believed it was God who showed my gift which I did not know I have. I could not believed that I have been a lay leader for over 15 years serving the North District. I believed let God works on our gifts and I am sure He will lead us.
Going off of the sequoia example: I feel the same way when looking at a night sky.
I believe in the Holy Bible which includes the Teachings of Jesus Christ guides us to all truth as well as the Holy Spirit!
Being made in God's image is about creativity. Creator God is tied intimately with creator human.
I believe God is the ultimate creator of everyone and everything. That creation flows through God because of the love God has for his creation.
@ Sarah, we call it "cathedral of the open sky" in our family... mountains, giant trees, stars :D
Even though I have been part of the Methodist church for 70 years I still feel like a rookie regarding my relationship with God However, I feel so connected in my relationship with Jesus and try to live my life accordingly. My relationship to God is slowly evolving. I choose to be so actively involved with my church in order to move people closer to doing the work of God with the support of their fellow church family members
YAS! Nature and community are so essential to how I experience God and my faith in Jesus.
I agree with Beth. The Holy Spirit is the most neglected of the trinity.
I have a hard time separating my relationship with God and my relationship with Jesus. My relationship is more with the Trinity and I feel a closeness with God, Jesus, and Holy Spirit If I had to choose a favorite it would be the Holy Spirit. When I'm preparing a sermon, I feel the prodding of the Spirit. When my daughter died recently, I was comforted by the Spirit. When I'm deciding on a course of action, the Spirit is right there leading the way. And I've found it very difficult to resist the Spirit--even when I would like to.
Marlene, so sorry for your loss <3
My relationship with Jesus, is more of a friend, I feel like I talk with Jesus in a real way like I would talk to a friend. God is more of my higher power when praying. The Holy Spirit is this fluid movement in my life that moves me to do/try/ and engage in different ways of understanding my spiritual gifts.
Maybe not related but I’ve had very deep conversations with people who are not christians while hiking.
My "Trinity" expression is a further extension of the loss of my mother and father. I often begin my prayers with "Mother, Father, God" Because I find peace in recognizing where my faith came from.
I relate more to Jesus Christ becuase he goes out and makes disciples and I feel like that is my calling. I have been part of the Methodist church since I was born which has been for sixteen year. I also believe that we need to love one another like God loves us in these tough times and always despite our differences. I believe this because I grew up knowing that God put us on this world for a reason and that reason is to love and show people the way of God.
God is the God of love, represented by the Triune God, all parts are equal, That God is Love and expects that we love our brothers and sisters equally and we are on this earth to be examples of Christ's love to other, we are here to do the works to show others by example.
Laurie, that is absolutely right. That's why I am Methodist because of the way we are able to look at our beliefs and understandings and still be open to one another, even though we may disagree.
Nina-- me too. I "fellowship" with a lot of environmentalists who have "never met a CHristian like (me)" and I tell them I hope I won't be the last.
when Im hiking and these conversations happen it makes me think of Paul when he addressed the Romans and their “Unknown God”. Meeting people where they are and leading them towards God.
Could you also make the slide available to us the what, why, who questions.
I am happy to be a Methodist because I don’t have to believe just like the pastor or someone else.
GNTV can you clear the raised hands?
What was the link for the UMC spiritual gifts survey?
We've been talking about how laiety and their gifts really lead and guide the church and its programs on our Church Council this year and how, especially in the Methodist church, that allows the pastor to really tap into his/her gifts and protect him/herself from burnout and it keeps our community from collapsing when our pastors move
Beth you are so fast!!
Danika, what are you all using?
Beth is a rock star!
A hint...when there is a whole slide that you like, instead of trying to quickly take notes of it, take a picture with your phone. In your notes you can write, "slide picture on phone" or something like that.
I believe we have the gifts amount our congregations to do amazing work. However, seems like too much time and gifts go to maintaining our buildings(shrines) and traditions instead of truly serving others.
We need all these wonderful gifts to carry out the Great Commission.
The Alpha program covers the Holy Spirit, and the Gifts, well.
I have led many spiritual gifts studies through the class resource from Church of the Resurrection. It is important to look at the Talents, Resources, Experiences, and Dreams as well as the Spiritual Gift. All of these combine into the ministry that you were meant to do.
Music and crafting, which on some lists are actually on some of the tests.
I believed we need to share how God blessings or God's grace enable you to overcome adversities and challenges in life. I myself born and raised in the third world country. But God was with me and I believed He guided me just like He promised all of us. My mother left us at a very young age of 46, living me with 8 siblings and I am the eldest. But. I know God had plans for me and I believed in Him. I always shared my own personal testimony that God is good. For without God, I won't be sharing my own testimony; for without God, I won't living in the land of milk and honey enjoying God's grace and blessings.
Kathy that sounds like a great study
People tend to say I am positive all the time and always have a smile. People say I am really good at listening. I am really good at initiating conversations.
One thing that I absolutely love doing is Parking Lot greeting before church service!
Some of mine that I have found from the Spiritual gifts that I have found is preaching, teaching and evangelism.
It's called Serving from the Heart
I love working with computer programs. and learning new ones
@beth, before COVID, we (as church council) designed another service that would be 99% laiety led (except for blessing and serving communion), we also use chaplains to help with hospital visits, etc.
Logistics and organizing
I agree, Sandrea. That is one of the best things about being a United Methodist. I grew up in the Southern Baptist Church...Need I say more?
I am also told I am flexible. And I don't get upset. I am a supervisor of social workers and I absolutely love facilitating team interactions.
People always say I’m good at technology (considering I’m 18, it’s natural for me) and I’ve used these skills to do projection at my church. Recently I’ve also done some video editing for our church services, with hopes to do more of that throughout the summer as a youth intern
Organizing things, music, speaking before others, problem solving, teaching, leading others, inventing
Danika, Does that mean the sermon, also?
My love language is physical care (food, comfort, facilitation). This makes sense when I look as see that I'm always trying to feed, comfort and make peoples days better.
I enjoy looking for gifts in others and trying to help them figure out HOW that gift can be used to help others and in the church.
I love working with and taking care of children and helping them learn the way of the world and helping them learn about Jesus
Making prayer shawls knitting and crocheting things that will make people happy. Singing, cooking for church activities. Encouraging people to realize their gifts.
I have noticed that some of my spiritual gifts are teaching, writing and speaking. These lead sometimes to others wanting me to be “the Leader”. Leadership however is something that really stresses me out.
Great idea, Nina! What a wonderful gift.
Carin, Speaking and organized
I love that Laurie
I need to meet some people with the gift of organization and work with them. Not one of my gifts.
I enjoy being Sunday liturgist reading scripture and leading the congregation in prayer.
You have the gift music, Nina!
I think all of us can use that gift as there is such a need in all aspects of our lives - organization.
I also love putting the worship together. and have dug right in with the online.
Thanks Marilee. Youre right about that. Music is a great joy to me.
@Wendy, we are using a Taize service, so the theology, readings, and structure are laid out in advance. There isn't really a "sermon" like we're used to, but then folks can go to second service too
A God-given gift for me is the quest for knowledge and asking questions.
My strength is organizing people and problem solving. (Engineer by trade - transcends to the church especially now that I am retired from work)
Teaching. I am told that I have the gift to bring out answers from all students. I can interpret the scripture by giving life to the liturgy.
Ann you are a great listener too, and you have a talent for music!
I just realized that I am missing facilitating Sunday School classes. One of my gifts is teaching, and I hadn't realized till now how much I miss it. I do get to do a Monday devotional every week, and thoroughly enjoy that. Keeps me going. Trying to figure out how we can resume classes, even if we aren't back in person.
People say I have a gift for preaching. The few times I have led a church or a Wednesday service, I always have good feedback. I am very organized which has helped with my work in the church. I, too, enjoy chairing meetings. I have good computer skills which goes along with the organization. I tend to reduce any task to a spreadsheet. I have been told that I'm a good listener.
I love greeting people, helping them feel comfortable, and once I get to know them lead them in seeing their gifts and where they can possibly plug in to share those gifts. Music is another strength .
Marilyn E. Hawley
I'd rather fo something rather then be in a meeting although I'm on many committees.
I really enjoy working with young people teenagers and children. I like encouraging them to become involved in the church and encouraging church leadership to find places of really ministry for them.
I also have the gift of helping identify goals, and how to manage goals.
Andrew Ponder Williams
We need to recognize that our church is preventing many people-specifically LGBTQ people from sharing their gifts.
Marlene McNiece--miss your messages. I also am going to miss VBS this year...watching the kids have fun & learn.
I agree Andrew!
Sometimes we stretch ourselves and master new gifts. The gifts are not static or one time.
We must keep in mind that we are all part of the same body and need to bring different gifts. The ideal Church leadership team would be one that includes all of the gifts in the people on the team.
We need to remember that things that are a burden to us are gifts for someone else. We need to let them use their gifts.
for me it is problem solving/fixing things and teaching both of which have led me into leadership positions.
Andrew _ Santa Cruz Valley would love to have some LGBTQ people again in our church and be in leadership. We want them here.
I compare myself to others waaaay too much, and dismiss my "gifts" as not so much gifts, and others gifts as somehow the really valuable ones.
Don Scarlett--I'm sure the kids who have attended VBS in the past will miss your crazy costumes and send of fund. I miss those things, too.
In the early church, when someone came into the church their gifts were immediately identified so they could become involved in the best way possible. Wouldn't that be wonderful?
The church is also not fully accessible to everyone yet, there are many gifted persons who also have disabilities that can be a part of the church - but need changes to participate. We need to see the need and change to open up worship and conferences to all persons.
Don--sense of fun.
I took a gifts inventory once and for the first time it listed humor as one of the gifts. I was happy to note that I rated high in that category. I like to include humor in my classes and sermons.
Amen to that statement, Gwen. I know my gifts have changed over the years, so I have become more flexible with myself.
Connecting with and accepting people of all ages and persuasions Taking ideas and running with them from the big picture level but not the detail angle. Understanding what people need and attempting to reinforce them in any way possible. Participating in groups without needing to chair said groups. Would rather "do" than organize
We have started a wonderful ministry at Santa Cruz called Friends for Life reaching out to disabled people in our community. They are a wonderful gift!
I had inferiority complex when I was in the school and stage pride. When I joined the ministry at University United Methodist Church, I was just an observer/church goers not a participant. But God touched me and challenged me by joining the Bible study. Later on I became leader and moderator. Next thing I know I became a lay leader. I believed don't be afraid in stepping up the plate for the glory of God. Don't think you are not qualified, because God will qualify you. Remember, God will use ordinary people like you and me for His Kingdom.
Donald , that is a true gift that allows some to listen better to sermons and studies.
The pandemic has prodded us to try VBS, Sunday School and other classes by ZOOM. It's fun, as well as challenging. Try it!
Thank you for recognizing Beth's gifts...she is amazing!
Don Scarlett - I too miss VBS and your classes - maybe a Zoom call class?
Beth we do not have that option.
Should I be seeing a list of participants?
Excellent job! I'm listening, but prefer to be off camera. Good conversation in the chat, also!
I don't think you see participants in a webinar.
I am so pleased with the participation!
The entire session is recorded and we will figure out the best way to make it available after the conclusion of the session.
yes you all this is going really well…I just has some really skeptical pastors say their laity are enjoying!
WOW!!! I appreciate that!
I feel like we are doing okay on timing?!
Zoom is easy once you get into doing it don't let it intimidate you jump in if you don't try you fail before you start. Go for it its fun.
Hey Gwen, GNTV Paul here. Do we come out of the break immediately into your next video or do you have any words of introduction for it?
Just go right into the video!
Fantastic! That is what we shall do
when you make it available, can you split it out into its components so we can show it in parts if needed? Please and thanks
I believe that when the session is recorded, the chat is also recorded (at least that is what I have experienced).
Jessica Moffit, I am from casa grande, and would love to chat with you some time about your year end ministry retirement. you can email me at email@example.com if you would
I have taken several Lay Servant classes with Beth Rambikur. She is an awesome teacher and can make all subjects interesting - even Methodist Polity!!!!
Hello friends, lots of questions about the chat…unfortunately you as an attendee cannot save it, but we as conference staff are going to save it and find a way to make it avlaible to you in some formate.
Christina, is it being recorded?
Amen to that, Wendy!
Thank you Beth
Yes it is being recorded
that would be great. bullet points at least
Jessica Moffit, I am from Show Low, and would also love to chat with you some time about your year end ministry retirement. you can email me at Kathryn.firstname.lastname@example.org if you would. I think too many of our projects lose energy but are still there. Readdressing all sounds like a good idea.
Alex "Doc" Shawn
I love how laity are connecting with each other!
I know that is so amazing!
It is working out way better than I anticipated
If nothing, this was a platform to connect laity with similar interests and talents.
And how great is it that they ARE SHARING their ideas with one another!!!
GNTV can you clear the raised hands?
I like the year end retirement idea too,
Kathryn Harrison - I’ll be delighted to share about Jessica’s theory - it works - she grew her churches ministries to over 80 - all funded and with many leaders and volunteers. I’ll be happy to connect with you next week after we conclude conference. My email is email@example.com. I have yours as well.
right click the chat and select all and copy & paste into Word
me too billie fidlin
THe year-end retirement sounds like all the clubs we do at our school-- we ask teachers to propose their clubs each fall and spring according to their interests and one club is required each year (BASIS)
Got it Jennifer - can you write down your email for me here. We’re working from home.
I believe that I have been here to trailblaze and change the way we are doing things - so that all churches are more accessible, that people are not shut out from worship, that we give all children and adults the opportunity to experience church - no matter their ability or inability, their disability. We need to be building up our church and make ways for all to worship.
Thank you Jen. Danika - its very interesting - the process involves interest, leadership and volunteer numbers. Its very cool - occurs over a weekend
Kevin, I have a MAC and can’t “right click”.
Mine is to hopefully become a local pastor.
Just need some guidance...
I unfortunately don't know anything about MAC's. If there's a way you would normally "select all" you should be able to copy it to a doc.
I really want to start being a assitant sunday school teacher
I am learning to thank God for the "gift" of covid discernment. It has been HARD to work from home with an almost 2-year-old, but there is major growth happening and God is speaking. I may even end up with a career change that would open me to have time for ministry.
Mine is to become a Certfed Lay Minister. will start my classes in July.
Susan - talk with your pastor, local district com on ministry, or your DS - whomever you feel comfortable with
I think we need to do things that push the boundaries of our comfort. We need to try new things to see where we fit not where we are told to fit.
have **more time for ministry ;)
Thank you, Billie, I have spoke to my pastor but he suggested Rev. Nancy after conference.
Hi, Bobbie, I have taken the classes and they are fantastic. Start working on a Mutual Ministry Team that you would like to work with.
Perfect. I went thru LP in Indiana. Great experience that led to more study at Claremont
Im really comfortable with what my calling is - music ministry. But how to do it in the environment we’re in now is harder.
I am going to reach out to her next week.
Also make sure you check out https://dscumc.org/lay-servant-ministries/
The pandemic has given us new opportunities for discipleship.
Ty Barbara. Will do.
making music videos has been an experience. The next step - how to involve the rest of my team.
In our current situation of being closed, I’ve been amazed to see how many people are using new and previously unexplored gifts to produce worship, conduct meetings, etc. I’m a choir director and worship co-chair who never thought she’d be helping to produce ‘Worship on the Air” which is broadcast on our local radio station!! God has shown us gifts we didn’t even know we had!
My email is firstname.lastname@example.org if you would like to reach out in the future, Bobbie!
I have had the opportunity to listen to different pastors while at sheltering at home. I have heard amazing sermons.
My calling is to become a Deacon and hopefully work at the District, Jurisdictional, and National Levels to improve the access for all people to be members of the Methodist Church. To work at all levels to accommodate, modify and improve the way we reach to those with disabilities. I want to start here and the Desert Southwest and keep the ball rolling uphill - but with perseverance I and others who care will make these changes.
This has all helped us to serve our normal homebound family members - we need to keep it up. People who can no longer get to church, people with disAbilities - we’ve become the church in new ways at new levels of excellence
I would love too.
To copy on a Mac, click on text screen, then click “command” & “A”. That will select all. Then move cursor to doc page and click “command” & ”C”.
We learned to get out from our comfort zone and became innovative in order to accomplish what God is telling us to do. We are doing bible study via zoom every Friday night and nightly devotion via FB live Monday thru Thursday. I believed this pandemic cannot stop us from worshipping and at the same sharing the word of God regardless of the circumstances. We have to be creative.
Kevin, I tried that first - doesn’t work.
Bobbie. I have connection info for CLM guidance -which District are you in? my contact info:email@example.com
We are learning to Zoom Bible classes. I want to continue that because I live 25 miles away. I’ll volunteer to teach from home.
We’ve been doing ZOOM meetings for a long time now… but this has also helped us go deeper into ZOOM, menti etc
There is now a special opportunity to reach shut-ins that were never able to come to church. Now, we can involve so many without even being there in person. Praise God!
Great comment Walt
New voices= new opportunities. If you feel like some of your laiety have an untapped gift-- don't be afraid to ask
Iwonder how we can keep "The Church has left the Building" energy of being the church outside the building, once we are back in buildings. Nan of Tucson FUMC on Margo's computer
One of our lay people has been doing a wonderful children’s time on our zoom worship. Each week we get to virtually visit the “loft” where her stuffed animal friends live and learn Bible Stories with them. We also got to meet her pet pig Joy.
Our Zoom Sunday School Class allows our members from other countries and states to join us every Sunday.
suggestion for chat messages: Make clear to whom, about whom, or about what you are speaking. There will have been several other messages displayed, since the one you are responding to.
In Show Low, we have planning on continue our Zoom service even after we meet. This winter we will not have to cancel church due to snow. We will just get the word out for everyone to jump on the Zoom service
Bobbie, contact Gretchen Lofgren firstname.lastname@example.org
I hate the words "We have always done it this way"
How do we get out of our own way to stretch?
The time now reminds me of when we shifted our culture from women not working out of the home, to women working both at home and out of the home. The church had huge changes to make, including having meetings in the evening and weekends, rather than during the day. When we made changes we were able to still engage women. But we lost tons of women and families to the church. We need to learn from that lesson. We need to be more tech savvy faster. How can the church help us with that???
Any ideas or general thoughts on reaching church members with very little or no technology. Not even cell phones
Oh yes, she has been my inspiration. Know her very well.
Bobbie - good! go for it
ty Jeannie the time has come at such a time as this
Fred Killion - we have something like the old fashioned phone tree. Most of us keep in contact via zoom worship and email but we have members assigned to keep up with our two members who do not have email or cell phones.
AMEN GWEN PREACH!!!
Nina - TWO???? Wow!!!!!!
Fred - continued. We set up “care teams”. Each team has a Shepard who contacts their members about once a week via whatever method works for them.
from Ty Montell,Bo there are two of us doing the Certified Lay Ministries now Gretchen Lofgren and Kelly Deyoe are AWESOME they can help
Lois Hedden - Im not sure what your responding to..
I became a CLM two years ago and struggled with what to do. My first choice was to assist with leading a small church with many preaching opportunities. Well, that was my first thought. But during an internship I got involved in a project to write a paper outlining best practices for growing the church. As a result, I have been assigned as the Minister of Church Growth for our church. Soon after starting, Covid-19 happened and many of our plans have been put on hold. As we cannot meet in person, I have been using my organizational/computer skills to work in establishing a data base for potential members. This is very much a work in process and I'm learning a lot. We have a large numbers of snowbirds (potential associate members or affiliate members). I'm attempting to keep in contact with those who have returned to their home state, looking forward to their returning in the fall--hopefully. Fred, we have a team of 39 people who are making weekly phone calls to the entire membership. We also have
Fred - we have a number of churches doing all kinds of neat mailings…PUMC has a very cool mailer. Nicolas Granger in Holbrook is doing some incredible non-tech. work as well.
Yep, I know. Love those two.
Sometimes snail mail with Bible study lessons as well as providing zoom sessions with phone can assist people to participate in church sessions and studies.
Epworth UMC also mailed out a spiritual care box
so did FUMC Tucson
Fred - we have a team in Care & Nurture to make sure that our non-tech members should be respected in their option of not having or being able to do tech...so we call and also mail out the weekly info
Re- contact with members without technology. Our pastor mails a copy of her sermon and a newsletter to members who need it.
We've had several children's ministry bag drops with Sunday School materials
And a Pentecost drop for all families
danika - we do that with our Friends for Life members.
When is it time to let a ministry go? All things have life cycles when do we know it is time to let something end.
One of the easiest ways to lose a volunteer is to give them nothing to do.
Beth, that’s often a difficult question, and some things continue because that’s the way it’s been.
Good point, working with established non-profits makes so much more sense that re-inventing the wheels within the church.
We need to honor the ministries when they end and celebrate what is new that is able to happen when those resources are opened up.
Beth and so many others Thanks for your ideas
Or thinking that because you had the idea, you must do it.
I like the phrase "Instead of asking for permission, ask for forgiveness"
Happy to help any church with the Jessica Moffit model of releasing ministries / creating new ones - its a great way to honor all that was, is and will be email@example.com
good point Trinity
I think its time to let a ministry go when membership falls off, lack of interest, no new ideas and your the only way still trying to breathe life into it. Someone is waiting for it to be killed off.
@Billie, would it be possible to get Rev. Nancy's email address? Thank you, Susan
OR-- IF your leader is burned out and there's no support.
Open that leader to new creativity
Thank you! I am grateful for the assistance!
You’re welcome Susan - conference staff are here to help always!
That is great to know.
When establishing a program like outreach, make sure it is doable or attainable. Start with the smaller one before thinking about the bigger one. If you cannot help in feeding the homeless because you don't have resources, perhaps join others who has the resources and volunteer your members in feeding. Join other churches with their program.
Just like our spiritual gifts change, it is realistic to expect our ministries to change. And it is important to develop new leadership to lead those ministries or to continue those that have been important to the church.
I began a young men's ministry trying to get them to become involved in their families... After about a year they all left and began a "young family" ministry on their own. Success and the end of my expectations! Praise God!
I am so happy to be a part of this conference. I love hearing and understanding better about the Laity. we are in transition and this has been so helpful.
Look for an article from me in the Conference newsletter in an upcoming issue (in a bit :-) ). I’ll explain the Moffit method. It takes the emotion out of the pain of letting go
Test each ministry on a regular basis to see if it directly supports achieving the mission that the congregation has chosen.
Good point, just like what it says in the Parable of the fig tree. Jesus thought there is fruit on the fig tree and found out there was none. He cursed the fig tree. Therefore, if the church is not productive or not bearing fruits we need to let it go. The same thing with our programs, if they are not serving our purpose we need to cancel them.
It's so hard to be one of just a few young families or families with young kids in an aging congreregation :/
It can hurt for some folks to let go of their passions that perhaps just are not longer working.
That sounds interesting, Billie!
Its fun and amazing Shirley. Takes a bit of courage and its all laity driven
Yes, change always results in a sense of loss for someone.
Exactly Jim - and hello!!!
Besides the congregation retiring ministries, also think about when you should stop something you have been doing. E.g., although I love playing with the bell choir, I stopped about a year ago, since I would not have had time for new responsibilities, which were more important to me..
Danika Danker what can a church do to help young families in churches where there aren’t a lot of them? That’s our situation too. We have a lot of older members and just a few families with young children.
If you have only a few young children, be thankful and continue to nurture them. Remember that all children are different and some will thrive more and welcome the opportunity to be "a big fish in a small pond". Not every child wants a large group.
Embrace change, it is inevitable (except from a vending machine).
I think one of the things our church does not do, we don't ask the community what they need us to do to help them. When we have done that, we find things we can do and are well equipped to do.
Just be sure that you truly know your children.
for the churches that have a few young families help the parents have a time off an evening or an afternoon where they can be with their spouse without the children . May keep them involved in Church
Nina-- We're still trying to figure that out. Hence my feeling called to ask and answer millennial questions (they're my own). Neither my age group nor my daughter's age group are big at our church
The challenge we have been facing nowadays is about our aging membership like what Danika mentioned. How can we invite young adult or even youth to join us in such away we have young blood who can continue the ministry and what are factors prohibiting them from joining?
We also have a church daycare that is in a season of reimagination.
Amen. About old ideas might work now
And we need to allow others to serve and grow as well.
The challenge of being the tired, young parent is energy. It is such an honor to be part of church leadership and to feel like my voice is heard, but inventing a ministry while creating a family is... hard
There's a lot to be said for term limits.
And to Danika’s point…so much of what we do with church just really doesn
t speak to millennials and younger
Danika - we have lots of “grandparents” who would be happy to give a break to parents. I wonder how we could match them up?
I just always try to remember that we don't want to put new wine into old wine skins.
I Love that Laurie.
Unfortunately we look at committee appointments as Supreme Court Appointments
We're working on a program where we invite "grandparents" into the daycare to read and build multi-generational relationships-- dumb COVID
We are in the first year of the single board council. It takes time and trial and error. But, we are so much more productive!
Yes, I have been asked because of my age to be on committees that I didn't find was my gift, it takes trial and error to figure that out. I thought I would be a good fit and shortly after changed my mind. I did find my replacement and that was really a great thing, I identified someone who really thrives with the role. I like that idea!
Danika - I wonder if parents would like having a time when our “grandparents” Met the kids at a local playground?
Remember that someone growing up in your church as an extremely quiet, shy child may grow up into a confident young adult with great ideas if you remember to ask.
A great book on “one committee leadership” is Leadership and Organization for fruitful congregations” by stephan ross
We tried to have free/ low cost dinner and daycare for families during our First Friday artwalk, but there wasn't great volunteer buy-in and our staff was burning out
Faith without works is like a screen door on a submarine - Rich Mullins
Danika - our church does’t have it’s own playground but there are playgrounds nearby. Parents could leave the kids at the playground with their “grandparents” and have some time away. Just an idea.
We had a very successful “pumpkin patch” last fall which the young families really enjoyed. And us older people enjoyed working there and meeting them.
like that idea
Great ideas-- we have two playgrounds that belong to our daycare that should be shared. Also, we had a pumpkin carving party, but the patch could be fun. I'd LOVE to see the daycare church partnership be more reciprocal-- parenting brunches, parenting classes, scholarships, etc. Right now, I can count ALL the babies, kids, youth, and confirmands on my fingers and toes
I will try to find peace without comfort.
Work with the Worship committee to brainstorm and seek a more viable way to Worship and seek the same action regarding our Ministries
Do we have a conference Laiety FB group?
Michael Edwards - I will hold you to that!
Danika - sounds like you have some great ideas. I’d like to continue this conversation. My email is firstname.lastname@example.org. Nina Conrad
Accessibility concerns group anyone? Let me know.
Do any churches have a virtual VBS?
Squirrel - I think Trinity Heights is planning a Virtual VBS
Yes re virtual VBS - if you google that you can access plans for it
thanks. I’ll look for it.
Yes, Santa Cruz Valley is having a virtual VBS
Red Mountain is having a virtual VBS on the 22, 23 24th of June...looking forward to it.
I didn’t see the comment on accessibility. But the Sierra Vista UMC has a mens group who specialize in building ramps. They might be able to help.
We love the ramp ministry! Yea David James and UMM!
Thanks Gwen, Laurie and Beth for this excellent workshop.
Thank you Laurie, Beth and Gwen great motivation
YAY!! Can't wait to see some of you on Facebook
Thank you Laurie for stepping up with Facebook page.
I am in!
Laurie, share the FB group name and we will join!
Also look on the DSC page on Facebook for all of our many FB pages for our various ministries at the Conference level - yea!
(make sure it's a group not a page) :)
Look of an email to come out, and also recourse in the DSC Newsletter
This was a great workshop, and I will find things that will set my heart on fire! I would love to join the facebook page!!
Great idea. L'm in.
This has been a great session! Thank you, Gwen, Beth and Laurie! I look forward to the information from this coming soon to my email inbox soon!
Great session! Thanks for all your effort.
Sierra Vista UMC is planning on a virtual VBS. Contact Liz Racicot,email@example.com
Gwen, Laurie, and Beth great job!!!!
Thank you to Gwen, Laurie & Beth. Great job!
I’m not on any social media.
You guys ROCK. Thank you conference staff for pouring your hearts into this session.
Thank you, all - this was really inspiring and helpful!
Thank you ladies for all the information!
Hi Nina. I miss you.
Thank you all for a great laity session...one of the best.
I have really enjoy this session. You all rock.
This has been a great session Loved it!!
This has been a great session. Thank you for all your hard work.
Ramps are one way of access - we need more ways to make church accessible - not just physical. Love the Ramp builders!!!!!
Thank you for the great session!
Thank you all!
Thank you. Well done.
Great laity session
Here is the online VBS we will use next month: https://www.gocurriculum.com/bolt-vbs
Thank You for a great session
Thanks for all your work putting this session together. We need more opportunities to share what works for us and what ideas we have or want to implement. Thanks!
This is so much easier for those not in the Phoenix area. Online attendance should be an option in the future.
great job, Christina!
All right Christina - its created!
Great Job ladies!
We were just sharing down the row in our physical conference, but look what happened electronically! Thanks to you all.
Lisa , we are using Bolt as well and there is a great FB page to join with ideas...
One of the better laity sessions in quite sometime. Great job to everyone
Thank you Christina, for the Facebook Laity Group!
I appreciate all the positive energy from this session! Thanks!
What is the facebook page again?
I haven't seen anything about the Scouting Ministry yet. For our churches that have Scouting units(BSA or GSUSA)be sure to reach out to those groups to bring youth and younger families into the church.
Do any churches have a virtual VBS?
kudos and accolaides
Thank you for all of your work in putting this together. Successful laity session in these different times.
Thank Kevin for that reminder
Well done! Thank You!
Beth - Trinity Heights is in the planning stages of a Virtual VBS, not sure when it will be yet
Thank you, good work!
Should we stay on for a debrief
You guys were amazing well done!
Excellent session! Thank you!!
Thanks, it was Great!
Beth , Red Mountain does. we are doing the Bolt Curriculum....I would be happy to share our ideas at Cyndi. Heinecke@yahoo.com
bye everyone see you later
virtual worked!!! Thanks!
New FB Group is now available for joining! Thanks Laurie and Christina!
How about using the Zoom feature of Break Out Rooms for small group discussions?
I loved this format, I think it was better than any small group session. Everyone got to share and it didn't interrupt the speaker.
Yes I think breakout rooms would be great’
Myrna we wanted to but it doesn’t work in webinar!
It worked better than I hoped, but God is big and can make anything happen!
Beth and Gwen - our next connection is when?
We did too Nina
there were some clergy who were present. I think they were inspired and will be more supportive of laity now. Thanks to y'all.
Now? Or at ather time?
This was so easy to follow and jump in ...loved it!!
Bye everyone! Many blessings!
What is the Facebook Page name for us
Thank you Bishop
I am planning to end this session in about 5 minutes, unless any of you have a different preference. I don’t want to stifle discussion, but I don’t want to let it drag on too long
Do any churches have a virtual VBS?
Im ok with 5 or less
Beth, Laurie and Bishop Bob, do you want to hop onto a quick separate Zoom? I could grab a link for us if so!
Or would you like to debrief later?
Kudos to all, really need the chat as I stayed focused on presentation. Thanks for an excellent nudge for change.
Now is good for me
Gwen will you email?
Here it is and will email
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